I originally tried to avoid exposure to this ālove-bombing hatefestā. Reminds me of those ā60s Synanon encounter sessions; āloveā thatās actually virtue-signaling contempt. Makes me wanna 𤮠upchuck, that is….Sorry to see it – and that you had to endure it, hermano!
No, I canāt….I got a taste of it, too. Treacle-with-arsenic. āLove-bombingā was what those druggies-turned-counselors at Synanon called their ātechniqueā. No love in it at all, actually, just loud, smug, overwhelming condescension.
She did call you a foxtrotting meddlesome old woman before ordering you to butt out. I thought it embodied perfectly the family-friendly motto of that site.
They are such scum. I am torn on this: I hope and believe that most conservatives would be shocked at how those who run L1 and L2 really feel about combat veterans. I am very inclined to believe that both those sites are over run with paid operatives, and the many of those who aren’t paid are so desperate to be on a site that they have sold their souls to the devil. And of course, there are also those who don’t check in on a regular basis: they are unaware. There might be something to be said for making them aware.
The way you were treated on both sites is beyond a disgrace. I believe and hope and pray that most people would be horrified by the treatment you received.
You might be unpleasantly surprised, JaC, at what academic and coastal conservatism looks like today. EVERYONE is resigned to big government; one side just wants to spend more-slowly than the other. Not sure when the ācenterā of center-right started getting more attention on L1, but itās not āconservativeā anymore. As to paying no more than lip-service to honoring veterans; youāre gonna have to head for flyover country to find it: pockets on both coasts and in the great, unwashed middle. Lack of awareness may have been true before 9/11/01, but weāve been at war for nearly two decades. Lack of awareness is a choice now, it seems to me. And these self-described āconservativeā sites prove it.
Nanda, I live in Massachusetts, and have spent most of my life here. I have never encountered the attitudes and disrespect for veterans that exists on both L1 and L2; the people on those sites are not normal, Nanda. Not anywhere.
Maybe you and I are blessed to be in pockets of āflyover countryā, JaC. Even some veterans have decided to accept the scenario handed them by the āmental healthā and VA system, that their service makes them damaged goods, whoāll have to be drugged-up zombies, and rehearse their pain forever in āgroup therapyā, to endure daily life. Make the stupid STOP, somehow…..
“Sorry to say, JaC, they arenāt America ā yet ā but theyāre helping to form itās new image and likeness.”
I disagree. With all due respect, Nanda, to say that L2 is going to help form America’s new image and likeness is laughable: they are a tiny group of about 10 guys. They aren’t shaping anything. Last I checked, L1 claimed to have 5000 members: I would be skeptical of that claim. The vast, vast majority of Americans are totally unaware that either site even exists, and if they ever become aware, they will be repelled by what they read. In both cases, we are talking about a very small, strange group of people: please don’t flatter them by painting them as influential. They aren’t.
Very early on during my membership on L1, I encountered a member whose attitude I found obnoxious-this being very early on, I was shocked and appalled to encounter such an obnoxious attitude in a fellow conservative. I totally went off on the guy: apparently, no one was paying attention, because I probably was out of line, but God he was such a jerk. I told him and everyone else flat out that I suspected him of being a bad actor who was purposely trying to make conservatives look bad. When I think of the hell my parents went through, it makes me so mad that these asswipes on the internet claim to represent me: they don’t represent anyone other than their sorry selves.
I think theyāre determining which way the wind blows – and on which side their bread should be buttered (maybe both?). They are a media-sharing platform first, a blog last, and a profit-seeking entity, always. (I refer to L1 here. L2 seems to be a coed intellectual steam room, where draped towels sometimes slide out of place, and words are deployed, not typed. Itās a ābrave old worldā out there.)
LOL, yeah, I am sure that it’s a goal, but has that goal been achieved? I seriously doubt it.
Making a sweet profit is always a goal, for everyone, but really, Nanda, you take these people far too seriously. If making money was really Rob Long’s main goal, or a goal for him at all, he would be doing something else, I assure you.
No, they took themselves seriously; I donāt take anyone seriously but the Ineffable – and, occasionally, ST – anymore. No worries about that, JaC. š¼
The majority of our ‘members’ are not living in American. My guess is most of them are not US citizens living overseas. Most of our lurkers are from America.
I believe we have a hardcore group of American lurkers who review our site daily but refuse to ‘join’ for their very own personal reasons.
I don’t understand what you are saying? Do you believe that those in power can ascertain what hundreds of millions of Americans want through L1?
I don’t want to keep seeing this, but I grew up in the pro-life movement: I have spent my entire life surrounded by hard core conservatives, and I was shocked and appalled by what I encountered on L1. I really, seriously, believe that most of the “members” there are not for real.
They may not be ‘for real’, JaC,, but the self-satisfied venom they spew is real enough; they are the face and voice of ‘conservatism’ right now – since others with intelligence have aged-out, or burned out.
Agree to disagree here, JaC; I don’t consider DJT as a ‘conservative’ – he is a pragmatist – nothing wrong with that. I have little quarrel with the President’s policy initiatives, but, I can’t go further than that. (That’s been my stance since the campaign, btw, lest I be thought of as inconsistent. š
Okay GOOD morning!
Hey, Simon! We the āEttes are ALL Americans, as are you, and in my humble homegrown opinion, we make up one awesome posse!
Okay weāve been wounded, you twice, Judy and me once, by vindictive and unjust banishment. Moi, Iām furious about it. For ALL of us. It is a bug not a feature of America today that the most sensitive get to determine what everybody else can say.
But we canāt turn on our country now! She needs us more than ever at this critical juncture. You, our soldier, and all of us at home need to remain āalways faithfulā . Frankly I donāt know if we can get through this. But āonce more dear friends unto the breach!ā,
The woman who wrote this is beneath contempt.
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And so are those who liked it.
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I think the 3rd Like was mine. Just sayen’
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Lol, well, that is different š
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Simon,
He’s said meaner things to me over at L2. Let it lie, I beg you. Ain’t worth it.
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She accused me of committing felonies, and I am the one who gets banned. Nevertheless you are correct, it ain’t worth it.
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I originally tried to avoid exposure to this ālove-bombing hatefestā. Reminds me of those ā60s Synanon encounter sessions; āloveā thatās actually virtue-signaling contempt. Makes me wanna 𤮠upchuck, that is….Sorry to see it – and that you had to endure it, hermano!
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D’Nanda, you too can see the love and compassion dripping with honey in her comment?
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No, I canāt….I got a taste of it, too. Treacle-with-arsenic. āLove-bombingā was what those druggies-turned-counselors at Synanon called their ātechniqueā. No love in it at all, actually, just loud, smug, overwhelming condescension.
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Is dueling legal in any State of the Union?
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Don’t even think it: that effing slimeball would cheat, she has no honor whatsoever
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She did call you a foxtrotting meddlesome old woman before ordering you to butt out. I thought it embodied perfectly the family-friendly motto of that site.
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They are such scum. I am torn on this: I hope and believe that most conservatives would be shocked at how those who run L1 and L2 really feel about combat veterans. I am very inclined to believe that both those sites are over run with paid operatives, and the many of those who aren’t paid are so desperate to be on a site that they have sold their souls to the devil. And of course, there are also those who don’t check in on a regular basis: they are unaware. There might be something to be said for making them aware.
The way you were treated on both sites is beyond a disgrace. I believe and hope and pray that most people would be horrified by the treatment you received.
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They sure as hotel have got me thinking America is no longer worth defending. No one should defend evil.
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L1 and L2 are not America.
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Sorry to say, JaC, they arenāt America – yet – but theyāre helping to form its new image and likeness.
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You might be unpleasantly surprised, JaC, at what academic and coastal conservatism looks like today. EVERYONE is resigned to big government; one side just wants to spend more-slowly than the other. Not sure when the ācenterā of center-right started getting more attention on L1, but itās not āconservativeā anymore. As to paying no more than lip-service to honoring veterans; youāre gonna have to head for flyover country to find it: pockets on both coasts and in the great, unwashed middle. Lack of awareness may have been true before 9/11/01, but weāve been at war for nearly two decades. Lack of awareness is a choice now, it seems to me. And these self-described āconservativeā sites prove it.
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Nanda, I live in Massachusetts, and have spent most of my life here. I have never encountered the attitudes and disrespect for veterans that exists on both L1 and L2; the people on those sites are not normal, Nanda. Not anywhere.
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Maybe you and I are blessed to be in pockets of āflyover countryā, JaC. Even some veterans have decided to accept the scenario handed them by the āmental healthā and VA system, that their service makes them damaged goods, whoāll have to be drugged-up zombies, and rehearse their pain forever in āgroup therapyā, to endure daily life. Make the stupid STOP, somehow…..
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“Is dueling legal in any State of the Union?”
Maybe with banjos….P.S. My āeditā button is Missing in Action again, Your Graciously Unleashedness. (The button showed up at the PC again.)
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“L1 and L2 are not America.”
Becuase I live overseas, they felt like America to me until they no longer did.
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I know. They are giving America in general and American conservatives in particular a very bad name; I think they are doing it on purpose.
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Bad actors?
https://inuinoueritas.home.blog/2019/11/25/bad-actors/
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Yup, that is where I would put my money
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“Sorry to say, JaC, they arenāt America ā yet ā but theyāre helping to form itās new image and likeness.”
I disagree. With all due respect, Nanda, to say that L2 is going to help form America’s new image and likeness is laughable: they are a tiny group of about 10 guys. They aren’t shaping anything. Last I checked, L1 claimed to have 5000 members: I would be skeptical of that claim. The vast, vast majority of Americans are totally unaware that either site even exists, and if they ever become aware, they will be repelled by what they read. In both cases, we are talking about a very small, strange group of people: please don’t flatter them by painting them as influential. They aren’t.
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Very early on during my membership on L1, I encountered a member whose attitude I found obnoxious-this being very early on, I was shocked and appalled to encounter such an obnoxious attitude in a fellow conservative. I totally went off on the guy: apparently, no one was paying attention, because I probably was out of line, but God he was such a jerk. I told him and everyone else flat out that I suspected him of being a bad actor who was purposely trying to make conservatives look bad. When I think of the hell my parents went through, it makes me so mad that these asswipes on the internet claim to represent me: they don’t represent anyone other than their sorry selves.
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Was it that asshole BDB?
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No, different asshole, lol š I actually can’t remember the guy’s name, there were so many jerks over there, you lose track
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I think theyāre determining which way the wind blows – and on which side their bread should be buttered (maybe both?). They are a media-sharing platform first, a blog last, and a profit-seeking entity, always. (I refer to L1 here. L2 seems to be a coed intellectual steam room, where draped towels sometimes slide out of place, and words are deployed, not typed. Itās a ābrave old worldā out there.)
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Well, but, no, they are not determining which way the wind blows. If that were the case, Trump never would have been elected.
A profit seeking entity? Are you sure about that? National Review was very influential for a long time-past tense-but it was never profitable.
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Not talking about NR; RL, in an early podcast, said that making a āsweetā profit was a goal re: L1.
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LOL, yeah, I am sure that it’s a goal, but has that goal been achieved? I seriously doubt it.
Making a sweet profit is always a goal, for everyone, but really, Nanda, you take these people far too seriously. If making money was really Rob Long’s main goal, or a goal for him at all, he would be doing something else, I assure you.
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No, they took themselves seriously; I donāt take anyone seriously but the Ineffable – and, occasionally, ST – anymore. No worries about that, JaC. š¼
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The majority of our ‘members’ are not living in American. My guess is most of them are not US citizens living overseas. Most of our lurkers are from America.
I believe we have a hardcore group of American lurkers who review our site daily but refuse to ‘join’ for their very own personal reasons.
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ādeterminingā in the sense of āascertainingā, JaC, not in the sense of āinfluencingā….
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I don’t understand what you are saying? Do you believe that those in power can ascertain what hundreds of millions of Americans want through L1?
I don’t want to keep seeing this, but I grew up in the pro-life movement: I have spent my entire life surrounded by hard core conservatives, and I was shocked and appalled by what I encountered on L1. I really, seriously, believe that most of the “members” there are not for real.
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Attempting to ascertain, I suppose: Finger in the air, to determine which way they should lean, Hence, right became center-right, becomes…,ā
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“…. are not for real.”
They may not be ‘for real’, JaC,, but the self-satisfied venom they spew is real enough; they are the face and voice of ‘conservatism’ right now – since others with intelligence have aged-out, or burned out.
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No, they aren’t. President Donald Trump is the face and voice of conservatism, and Thank God for that.
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Agree to disagree here, JaC; I don’t consider DJT as a ‘conservative’ – he is a pragmatist – nothing wrong with that. I have little quarrel with the President’s policy initiatives, but, I can’t go further than that. (That’s been my stance since the campaign, btw, lest I be thought of as inconsistent. š
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Yes, we will have to agree to disagree about that, Nanda š
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Typing is getting frustrating, so Iāll be getting some sleep. This was groovy. Back later. Chao for now. Peace, out,
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Goodnight, Nanda, sweet dreams š
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Thanks, you, too…..
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Okay GOOD morning!
Hey, Simon! We the āEttes are ALL Americans, as are you, and in my humble homegrown opinion, we make up one awesome posse!
Okay weāve been wounded, you twice, Judy and me once, by vindictive and unjust banishment. Moi, Iām furious about it. For ALL of us. It is a bug not a feature of America today that the most sensitive get to determine what everybody else can say.
But we canāt turn on our country now! She needs us more than ever at this critical juncture. You, our soldier, and all of us at home need to remain āalways faithfulā . Frankly I donāt know if we can get through this. But āonce more dear friends unto the breach!ā,
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Thanks, Hypatia, for putting this into perspective. The ‘always faithful’ was a nice touch.
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